Cliff
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29-Nov-2005
10:21 PM
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What I want to know is, when they build the underpass on Ranchero, will they also be building a bridge and on ramp so people can get on the freeway. Also the Ranchero pavement is falling apart. Is there a plan to resurface it by the city.
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PAUL BOSACKI
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30-Nov-2005
6:27 AM
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Good question, I got a call from Congressman Lewis's staff yesterday concerning the underpass. To give credit where credit is due, the newest $3 million towards the underpass was largely his doing. The staffer told me that he couldn't do anything about the local roads but Ranchero was going to be connected to the 15 so federal funds could be allocated.I asked if Hesperia could be declared a disaster area for federal funds, she said no. Mike Podegracz (city manager) mentions it in a Daily Press story that it will be done by 2010. The plan is a Ranchero interchange, with an auto mall and business on both sides of the 15, all the way to the top of the pass. Get them comming up the hill before they get to Victorville. The next Bear Valley/Main Street traffic gridlock deal.
Last Edited PAUL BOSACKI on 30-Nov-2005 6:28 AM
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Anonymous
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1-Dec-2005
10:07 AM
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I think everyone knows that this Ranchero underpass is just an old and well used cash vaccume to pull every last dollar. Please don't insult us with all this TALK of this project ever seeing the light of day. The Ranchero project has been an ubran mith for so long at least 3 generations have come and gone. The whole time multi-million dollar studies keep getting funded. Where are the results of these studies? Meanwhile, everyone will just keep driving illegaly across the tracks by the airport (including the sheriffs dept.) How is it that our neighboring cities can build new streets and attract new business with what seems like little effort at all? Maybe there should be a raddical change of leadership. Bring in someone who will make it happen, without empty promisses and endless excusses. Change for the better can and does happen, with the right people in place. All you have to do is look next door to see it happening right now.
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PAUL BOSACKI
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2-Dec-2005
6:30 PM
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I'll tell you why they will break ground early next year, because it is an election year. There will be a series of events including increased one time funding for roads as a part of election year stratagy. The practice of underfunding before and then the big show during a campaign is pretty standard. Hesperia politics is no different.
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Jim Lindley
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2-Dec-2005
6:57 PM
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I sense that folks don't think that the Ranchero underpass will ever happen. You all should know that the Ranchero underpass project is why I started going to City Council meetings. Before I was elected (1998), a previous Council had accumulated all of the money to do the undepass, but some folks wanted the money to be "spead around town" and pave some roads in town instead. Those were some rancorous meetings, and the Council ultimately decided to pave roads instead of build the underpass. Well folks......the Ranchero undepass is going to be built, is going to break ground next year even though it is an election year (I hope you wouldn't prefer that we wait another year or two), and the underpass is only one part of the Ranchero project. The Ranchero Project consists of three phases. Phase I is to build the Ranchero Underpass with the financial support of Congressman Lewis (I never took credit for only myself on this one or any other project) beginning Spring 2006. Simultaneously, Phase II will begin the planning and environmental process. Phase II is the Ranchero Interchange at Ranchero and Interstate 15. As Phase II progresses, Phase III will begin perhaps in the Fall of 2008. Phase III is the widening, realignment, and rehibilitation of Ranchero Road from Arrowhead to Interstate 15. All of this will be done as the other large projects have been done in town: with many people at every level of government helping us get the financial resources from any source we can: federal, state, local, Measure I, DIF, RDA, and City money. That is simply the only way these large projects get done and why they take so long to do. That is really a very cynical low blow to say that we will pave or fix stuff only because it is an election year. If we could have started the Ranchero Underpass one minute sooner that we are going to, we would have. At least this current Council would have. Every day that goes by, these projects get more expensive. When that former Council blew our chance to build it when they could have, they just cost the taxpayers double or triple what it would have cost us then.
Last Edited Jim Lindley on 2-Dec-2005 7:04 PM
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PAUL BOSACKI
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3-Dec-2005
5:06 AM
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Welcome back Mr. Lindley. Don't worry, nothing happened while you were gone. It seems that based on this fiscal years performance on paving residential roads that the city will increase the amount by at least 100% next spring because they haven't paved 1 foot of road in the first 6 months. You hit it on the head with the increased amount of cost of anything if you wait longer, sort of like asphalt. The Ranchero underpass will be an improvement in the quality of life for everybody, good for us. But then, it won't help anyone as far as the residential roads go. This site is called pave roads first, not build underpasses first, or build bridges over the freeway first. I would have been on the side of paving the roads before the underpass discussion, but that was then and this is now.That is happening,residential roads are still not getting paved in December of 2005.
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Jim Lindley
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3-Dec-2005
10:49 AM
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Please read Mitch's post on the times of the year when paving can be done, why, and the reasons we pave at thge times of the year that we do. Also, you want to pave residential roads first, and I understand fully the thrust of your website. You seem to completely have missed the point that we cannot use all of the roads money on residential roads, it just depends on which source the money is secured. We also must replace every water line in the City, which we are coordinating with the roads CIP to get the best bang for the buck on our limited paving dollars. Finally, I agree that what past Councils have done or not done is water under the bridge. However, we must also relieve congestion on our roads through better circulation projects like the Ranchero Underpass and the Main Street Interchange. That past Council spent over $12 million to pave residential roads in town instead of build the Ranchero Underpass. Does anyone remember which roads got done, or do they just think poorly of the City because the Ranchero Underpass is not done yet?
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Anonymous
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5-Dec-2005
8:35 AM
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Why is Mariposa being paved before at least a dozen streets in residential areas with 10 times more everyday traffic? Not only is this not getting done, what little is being done is being done WRONG!!!! Has anyone thought to using contractors who do paving for a living. The city is using city employees who are good people,but not paving contractors. What will the cost be to repave the repaved roads? What a mess. Whoever is in charge of this nightmare needs to get out in the streets and see for him or her self what is actually happening. We the citizens of Hesperia are more than tired of all these excuses and flat out B.S.. You hear loud and clear what we expect from our city government,yet what we get isn't even close.
There are some of us that have contacted the state government for assistance with our issue. They replied "we cannot help at the local level. You must rely on the elected local officials." No big surprise there at all.
Therefore we issue the challenge to our leaders again. QUIT THE EXCUSSES AND PRODUCE THE RESULTS WE SHOULDEN'T HAVE TO DEMAND.
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Henry Hesperia
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5-Dec-2005
9:05 AM
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Mariposa is getting repaved because they are going to build probably 1,000+ new homes in that area in the next year. All the land you see from east of the 15 between Main Street and Bear Valley has rezoned high density and is in the process of being developed. It's going to look like Rancho Cucamonga. Again, proof that the city caters to developers at the expense of quality of living or existing resident's roads!
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Anonymous
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6-Dec-2005
7:15 AM
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The plan for 15 and ranchero is a bunch of houses? Well it is all too clear now. Pave the roads where new houses are going to be and not take care of the families that already live here. I can't help but wonder why our local gov. thinks it is alright to treat us this way. I can see clearly now I will leave this town and I will also move my successful company and its employees along with all the revenue we have provided to this city. I would like to say thanks for nothing. I will check back with my family that can't leave here (yet) from time to time. I wish all of you the very best. When communication changes nothing and empty promises are rammed down everyones throat repeatedly. It is obviously time for me to change what I can for my family. This is the worst run town on the planet. I have been all over this beautiful country and seen a lot, but never have I heard or seen tnis kind of leadership. Over and over again these type of leaders are elected and the only thing they try to do is usher in the builders with deep pockets, and make them build and take care of the things they won't. It will look like Rancho Cucamonga because the leaders of Ranco Cucamonga are now running our town into the ground at our expense.This town obviously needs a lot of things. It is very unfortunate that such a beautiful place will be destroyed by shear insanity,personal agenda and greed.
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Henry Hesperia
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6-Dec-2005
12:32 PM
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Don't leave yet! Hesperia is still worth fighting for. I have been looking into the political finances of our city council members and past articles on their votes. Tad Honeycutt, Jim Lindley and Ed Pack all take BIG money from developers and have approved every housing project put in front of them. They have a 3-2 majority on the council and are the ones who have installed all the Rancho Cucamonga people in the city govt. Lindley and Pack are up for election in November. If we got rid of just one to them, then the power would shift away from the developer voting block named Lindley, Pack, and Honeycutt immediately!
We just need one strong candiate, not beholden to special interest money(ie developers), who would run on the stand of protecting current citizen's quality of life and the roads. I think he or she would win in a landslide.
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Mitch
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7-Dec-2005
10:35 AM
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Did anyone think to call the city engineering department and ask about the reasoning behind paving Mariposa first? Well, to help everyone out, the decision on reconstructing Mariposa first was made because the sewer trench is failing and will cave in the sewer line if it is not repaired quickly. If you looked before the work started 2 weeks ago, the center line was sinking and the asphalt was cracking and breaking apart along that center line. The sub-grade (base) will be re-compacted, and topped with new asphalt. If there are other plans for this area down the road, that I can't comment on. But this road was at a point of "repair it before it fails". Remember that this section of Mariposa is the by-pass route for northbound freeway closures as well as those who avoid the freeway all togther. Hopefully those that use this road will slow down and follow the speed limit (not 80 mph).
It seems that everyone wants to blame every city problem on someone else. I must be part of the problem also, because I voted for Mayor Lindley, Ed Pack, and wouldn't consider voting for Rita (voice of Al)Vogler or Mike Leonard. I agree with the majority, that paving is the number one item of importance for the city, but it is among dozens of other issues that need attention on a daily basis. I attend city council meetings, and see the same 25-35 people each time. Show support if you have time. I also feel that the new library and civic center will be a nice addition to the city. People use these facilities everyday and this will show some pride moving up and out of the "strip mall".
Please read the posts on the roads message board for the reasons that it would take years and years and years to pave all of the roads that need paving in the city (regardless of the money issue). These reasons are not always excuses, but quite often the facts and the way it really is. I hope that when it comes to election time next year, everyone looks at a number of issues and reasons behind who they vote for, not just because their neighborhood wasn't on the paving list (which is decided by engineering not the council). Please remember, Paul will be at Lime street park this Sunday 12-11-05 from 1:00pm-3:00pm to get togther with anyone who shows up for a discussion on these issues. Paul, thanks again for the website and a place to voice our concerns. I don't know everything about all issues, but I do specifically know the aspahlt paving industry in the high desert. Thanks Mitch
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PAUL BOSACKI
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8-Dec-2005
1:01 PM
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Not to downplay everyones political opinion, most people are very passionate about what or who they believe, but the reason that I won't get into that is because I believe it will reduce the chances of getting something done about paving the roads. Since I started this site the majority of people who have logged on have stated that the pavement program and its funding are not what we expected from the City and that we need to do better. I need to stay with those 2 ideas. It's not working and what can we do to improve it. The city council needs to address this issue with the residents or we really can't trust them to do the right thing and then we can get political. I really think it's time for public meetings and a new plan on funding and actually paving some roads.
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Anonymous
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14-Dec-2005
7:27 AM
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Should there be a coordinated effort between the Dialy Press,all the local radio stations and this web site to hold a town hall meeting? If a big enough stink is made about comming to this meeting, we might see a lot of folks come out and see whats going ( or not ) going on. Is it true that we don't elect the mator of our town?
The city council members trade the mayor posisition like it was their own personal game. How can this be beneficial to us? When do we get the results we nedd to see?
Why are so many details hidden from us?
Who really runs this place?
Is all the new found revenue being looked after carefully?
Why should we stay in this town?
Why would new business choose to set up here instead of AV or VV?
How is it that these roads that have been bad for so long without being fixed before it is too far gone?
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Anonymous
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5-Jan-2006
4:15 PM
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Jim Lindley is right, we are cynical concerning the Ranchero underpass! However, we are cynical for good reason. I've lived here for 23 years and alot of candidates have run for office useing that very thing for their platform. I've all but given up on seeing it happen in my life time. Signed~Cynical Citizen
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I-15 & I215 closures
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5-Jan-2006
8:10 PM
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I kow this is not a Hesperia Roads issue but feel it's something High Desert Commuters are aware of! CALTRANS ALERT! CAJON PASS CLOSURES! EXPECT 3-4 HOUR DELAYS! I-15, I-215 closures this summer! Major work on interchange to cause three to four-hour delays on weekends! Goto this link to see the article. http://www.vvdailypress.com/2006/113638443491068.html Here we go again with Caltrans again!
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PAUL BOSACKI
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24-Jan-2006
7:14 PM
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Check out the story from the Star that's posted in the news,rumors and spin section. Maybe next year...
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Henry Hesperia
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24-Jan-2006
9:57 PM
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Wouldn't it be nice to have a non career politician in the city council, someone who is not benefiting monetarily from the development of Hesperia? We need someone honest, who cares about Hesperia and doesn't play hardcore politics in our town. I say we get rid of Jim Lindley this election year. It looks like he and Tad Honeycutt are the brains behind these political games (and corruption, ie California Charter Academy). Are there any strong candidates running against Lindley this year? If not, we need someone quickly. This is going to be David(Hesperia citizens) vs. Goliath(Lindley and his special interest developer money machine).
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PAUL BOSACKI
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18-Feb-2006
7:16 PM
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Its 2-18-06 and I just picked up a copy of the 2-17-06 Resorter at Stater Bros. There's a story on the railroad and a few comments from Tad Honeycutt- anyway the part that blew me away was " Honeycutt said the city was earnestly contemplating committing $30 million towards the Ranchero interchange at the 15 Freeway that could be completed as early as 2012." $30 MILLION DOLLARS FOR A FREEWAY OFFRAMP WHERE NOBODY LIVES! WITHOUT ANY PUBLIC NOTICE! He goes on to state " We are looking at completing the Ranchero interchange with local dollars to keep the process from being slowed down." WHEN DID THE RANCHERO INTERCHANGE BECOME THE PRIORITY IN SPENDING LOCAL CITY TAX MONEY? WHAT HAPPENED TO THE ROADS? WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON DOWN THERE? HAVE THEY LOST THEIR MINDS? WHERE IS THE PUBLIC OUTCRY?
Last Edited PAUL BOSACKI on 18-Feb-2006 7:29 PM
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Henry Hesperia
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19-Feb-2006
8:56 PM
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"$30 MILLION DOLLARS FOR A FREEWAY OFFRAMP WHERE NOBODY LIVES! "
I am sure they have plans to add a ton of new homes to the area. This would be a gift to the developer backers of Lindley , Honeycutt and Pack. As a commuter to San Berdo, I have seen traffic increase dramatically in the last year alone. Even with the new Main Street interchange things are still pretty bad. I predict that within a year, at the current pace of building, traffic will be so bad that it will be a very big negative to prospective home buyers. The Gang of Three cannot wait for the federal funding at the cost of not building more homes asap. New homes for their special interest backers are the priority with these guys.
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PAUL BOSACKI
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23-Apr-2006
1:02 PM
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I was looking for Rancho Las Flores info when I stumbled onto the proland.com site with the whole High Desert sales pitch. Looking at some of Honeycutt's deals it looks like SunCal is looking to build a big development in Summit Valley along with the 2 in Victorville already going. The 16000 homes in Rancho Las Flores with 53000 more residents is the mind blower to me. The Ranchero freeway offramp and underpass hurry makes more sense if you are buying and selling property out there like our Mayor is. It's the key to making millions of dollars by spending tax money to allow access to the new developments. Go figure...
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PAUL BOSACKI
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24-Aug-2007
5:28 AM
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At last nights planning commission meeting (8-23-07) we got a quick update on the Ranchero underpass and the red tape that is preventing it from making any meaningful progress. Mostly Cal Trans making the City redo forms over and over. I am going to put together a contact page with every Government agency involved. Maybe we can use the squeaky wheel theory and help ease the gridlock in the Victor Vally by voicing our frustration over the lack of progress over the last few years . Log in and let us know what you think.
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